CosmoGIRL tells Girls: Keep Your Opinions to Yourself

CosmoGIRL! Magazine has an advice column where girls can send questions into their CG! Dude-Squad for what they refer to as "guy advice." In their May 2008 issue, a 17-year-old from Florida name Rowena writes: "I'm smart, confident, ambitious -- and opinionated. I know these are positive qualities, but a lot of guys find me intimidating. What's going on?"

To which CG's Guy, Thorton, responds with this:

"You're right, Rowena: Intelligence and ambition are positive qualities. And the same goes for having opinions. So if guys are acting weird around you, it could be that they're not seeing the same you that you're seeing. Expressing all of your opinions all at once can make you seem like you're not open to other people's points of view, and you might come off as narrow-minded instead of opinionated. Try revealing your opinions about stuff little by little so your awesomeness shows more and more each day. Any guy worth knowing will take notice! " [Emphasis mine.]

Seriously ? Although it doesn't advise Rowena to get rid of her opinions completely, it certainly makes it seem like it'd be beneficial if she kept some to herself... to be better received by guys her age . I get that the magazine is trying to explain that opinions can make you sound pushy -- but who the hell cares? Isn't the point of having opinions to make them heard? 

I find it shocking that the same magazine that created Project 2024 -- which not only encourages young girls to voice their opinion, fight for what they believe in, and fervently chase after their dreams, but provides them with the opportunity to do so -- would publish such contradictory advice. I doubt that you could flip open to a teen guy's magazine advice column (if such a thing exists) and find a columnist urging boys to keep their opinions to themselves. It'd probably say something like, "If she doesn't like it, tough! She's not worth it," which is exactly what this magazine should be advising as well, rather than encouraging girls to silence themselves in order to be well-liked.

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[0+|0-] Author Profile Page Steven said:

I think one thing is sometimes when you express feelings you strongly believe you come across as if you are trying to force those believes on other people.

I have that same problem in person and probably on discussion boards. I talk/write as if I think I am right, and that kinda means you are wrong if you don't agree with me. It (meaning me) can be abrasive and you (meaning me) run the risk of appearing arrogant.

With all that being said, I think there is some merit to the above quote, especially [being opinionated] "can make you seem like you're not open to other people's points of view, and you might come off as narrow-minded instead of opinionated."

It's not that your opinionated, it's how your opinionated.

In theory, Steven's analysis makes sense. However, we are not living in a vacuum world in which that common sense-type advice lacks any sort of cultural context or setting. The setting in which this particular bit of "advice" is located is one where women, notably young women, are socialized to believe that they have no right to be opinionated, that it is off-putting, and that it may cause them to appear unladylike with their lack of accommodation for others' feelings.

While, like Steven points out, we *should* pay attention to what we say and how we say it because it can have effects on how others perceive us, this advice is not universally given. While perhaps we [society] SHOULD tell men and boys that very same message, we don't. We tell women and girls that they should behave this way. CosmoGirl, whether they mean to or not, is reinforcing this traditionalistic script with their comments.

[0+|0-] Author Profile Page Steven said:

I would say this about CG answer, as quoted above... It did not answer the question...

"I'm smart, confident, ambitious -- and opinionated. I know these are positive qualities, but a lot of guys find me intimidating. What's going on?"

Well, she may actually intimidate some of the guys. That is the honest up front answer. Some guys don't know how to deal with smart vocal women.

How to handle that is another question, one which CG attempted to answer. Basically they said warm the insecure guys up to your opinionated. Take that how you will.

[0+|0-] Author Profile Page Maggie Franz said:

That's so sad. I've noticed a trend in teen magazines though that reflects the "shut up and behave sentiment." I always read teen mags when I was a preteen and "woman" mags as a teenager. When I was a preteen in the 90s they were daring and encouraged girls to be outgoing and even outrageous. They had articles that screamed girl power and such. Now a days they seem to be a lot more conservative and conforming. I believe that a lot of it has to do with their readers, however. Whenever a magazine like Cosmo Girl or Seventeen tries to do an article on something progressive like (shock) birth control or sexuality they are always attacked with a slew of letters moaning that they have overstepped their boundaries as a "teen magazine." Many of these letters are from parents which shows that my generation of girls is being told to shut up and conform and many are going along with it.

I don't remember teen magazines encourages girls to be outrageous in the '90s. They had the same exact crap that they've always had: articles about boys, talking to boys, looking good for boys, not intimidating boys, the importance of being liked by boys, etc. I would suggest you find some old copies of those same magazines, Maggie, and read them again now.

But I don't think this is inherently contradictory advice. I know a guy who could actually use this exact advice, not because he needs to be less opinionated but because he gets so enthusiastic about expressing his opinion, he makes it seem like his opinion is the only rational, right one.

The problem I have with it is that it automatically assumes that there is something wrong with the girl who wrote in, and further assumes what exactly the problem is. Maybe she's just surrounded by a bunch of insecure boys, in which case they should have said that and advised her to just keep being herself in spite of it.

[0+|0-] Author Profile Page Crystal said:

Steven, I see your point and agree that it is important to be aware of how we present our opinions, but like LlesbianLlama said, often times young girls are told that they should keep quiet completely in order to abide by “lady-like” standards. Thus, even if that wasn’t Cosmogirl’s intention, it can come off as if they are reinforcing such ideas.

Maggie Franz, I agree. It worries me that many companies, people, whatever are concerned with not ruffling any feathers and avoiding controversy at all costs. Because of this, it seems like they’re willing to comply with conservative ideas instead of pushing the envelope, just to make sure that they’re not looked down upon. It’s a shame that teen magazines – which are incredibly influential to teen girls (when I was younger, it was where I got most, if not all, of my information from) – have to censor themselves.

[0+|0-] Author Profile Page Paul said:

I disagree with the OP’s projection of what a Man-Manual would advise; "If she doesn't like it, tough! She's not worth it." Most advise columns I’ve come across have mentored me to not talk to much about myself, let her do most of the talking. Don’t belitte others, self deprecating humor is best. Find common ground and expand on it. I would like to note that we are dealing with teenagers here, and maybe her perception of herself isn’t as complete as one would need to correctly give her advise. I do find it funny that the advise to both teams seems to be shut up and let the other side to do the talking. Makes me thankfull that 17 is a decade behind me.

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