That is beyond disgusting! How can, if their site does what it claims it does, this be legal at all? Isn't privacy and confidentiality mandated in any kind of medical procedure?!

And don't even get me started on the actual content of the site. Murder is a sin, yet you are incensed that you can no longer blow up abortion clinics? Hypocritical much?

Actually, after reading the entire site I'm convinced it has to be some kind of sick parody site of some kind. If you go to join, it gives a ton of stipulations (must be law enforcement, clergy, etc) and the cost is astronomical ($700 for 7 days, $32,000 for unlimited access), so no one will actually join. Plus some of the stuff in the FAQ just seems over the top ("when is an abortion acceptable? oh, in a little place called HELL, you heathen!). It has to be a joke, right? Right?! Please tell me it's a joke!

Yeah, parody. And hardly a subtle one.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who knew about 2 minutes in that this was an uninformed attempt at humor.

Some of the tip-offs were the Biblical verses quoted (conspicuously missing some of the prime ones usually quoted), and comments like this: "We believe strongly in informing the public of the iniquities of young girls who have no option but to be condemned to hell for their difficult (but not impossible!) decisions."

I've spent my whole life in evangelical Christian anti-abortion churches and circles and this type of gleeful "abandon them to hell" malice is the exact opposite of what they preach. Most anti-abortionists I know personally are genuinely Concerned about the eternal soul of the "mother and child." Many use the language of salvation, repentence, and forgiveness, and treat women who've had abortions with Concern, Caring, and gentleness, never with ridicule or threats.

Other tip-offs:
Q: I may be pregnant by a Son of Ham, is that a problem?
No. Well, kind of, it depends on how your parents feel about you having a bastard child of mixed race born of a black father who can’t be found anywhere this side of the three-point line.

The whole tone of the site is completely counter to the mainstream of anti-abortion philosophy and rhetoric.

Incidentally, a lot of Pro-Lifers are genuinely compassionate people who care about both the women involved and the potential child. I even agree with them that abortion is not the most enticing of choices out there. But, the difference between me and them is that I believe it should remain a choice.

Glad to hear it's a joke, since I couldn't get past the first page and the picture of the fetus. No one "caring" about "life" poses fetuses like that. Ew.

Yeah, I couldn't believe it either. I googled it to see if it's a joke, and it's listed on humorlinks.com:
Abortion Tracker on Humor Links

I did some research too when I first read it and I did notice it listed on humorlinks but I just can't believe it's a parody or joke. If it is amazingly poorly done and in extremely poor taste. The money they ask for made me question it but the fact that mega-churches can exist and flourish even made someone asking for that much money seem plausible. I read the site up and down and I just couldn't convince myself it was a joke. The Son of Ham comment was shocking and very bombastic but I mean, watch Jesus Camp or the BBC Louis Theroux with the Phelps Westboro Baptist Church. People abuse religion to say messed up things for fucked up goals.

I spoke harshly in my anger when I posted but what frightens me most about this site, whether or not it's real, is that we could potential believe it to be the creation of someone living in our world right now. It is one thing to be pro-life or pro-life and anti-choice, that's an argument we're all struggling to reconcile presently. What's upsetting is that there do exist people who make this site seem plausible, people who are full of hate and judgment, who make up Bible passages and statistics to fit their needs. I'm sure you all saw the article from the NYTimes a few weeks back that Feministing featured by the OB/GYN who was reminding us that in the struggle for protecting the lives of 'babies' we've often forgotten the women, those women who shoved knitting needles into themselves and lived their lives with the mental and physical scars of what unfair access to health care can do. Whether or not the site is a joke it struck me when I saw it, it angered me so severely because people do think like that and we see the consequences of their actions and thoughts everyday. Roe vs. Wade shouldn't be a question, fair access to affordable birth control wouldn't shouldn't be a question. A man can buy condoms without much more than mild embarrassment at the checkout line but I'm a whore of Sodom for using the NuvaRing or saying 'vagina' instead of some made up play term for my body.

I was so angry and moved to post because I feel sometimes with people who are real and who do think like this that I'm battling a monster that won't ever die. Hateful people raise hateful children (usually) and it's just an ongoing cycle that I have no weapon against. It's hard, especially as an atheist, not to get my dander up when I read these sort of things. And of course there are people who are kinder and gentler in their judgment and want good health care for the mother while she still suffers through a pregnancy she doesn't want but it's still people who are not the individuals involved making decisions and passing judgments on what is right and what is wrong. Choice is about a pro-lifer being able to carry a baby to term in a healthy way or a someone pro-choice being able to have an abortion safely and without people, even kindly, clicking their teeth and praying over her lost little soul.

My body is my business, always. Maybe some people may not get up in my face about it or shout at me or but me in physical or bodily harm but they still pray for me and harbor a desire to save me when I don't need saved.

I don't know how everyone else feels but to me I'm just as offended by people saying they'll 'pray for me' or that 'the fold is open' if I ever hit bullshit spiritual enlightenment as I am by people who out loud would call me a sinning whore for being on birth control. Sugar-coating the same message doesn't change what the core is.

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but when I clicked on "Abortion Alternatives" it came to a 404: Page Not Found error, and I chuckled a little bit. I like the commentary there.

This site has to be a fake. There is no information provided to contact anyone directly involved with the site, (email or otherwise). In fact, when you click on the "contact us!" link, a page showing error 404 appears. On the "join our network" page, there are no actual links allowing for someone to try to purchase membership to the site.

"Please bear in mind that our database was never meant to be open to the public, nor viewable by the masses in general. Our database is reserved, for privacy reasons, strictly for use by the elite few on a need-to-know basis only. In order to gain full access to our lists, you must first evidence that you are among the needers-to-know."

So apparently, in order to join you must be
* Law enforcement
* Clergy
* Marital Counseling staff
* Doctor
* Lawyer
* CEO / Business Owner
* Member of the Media
* Sundry - Wait a minute, only those in the above positions of "power" are on a need-to-know level, but really, everyone else is invited too!

This. Is. Total. Bullshit.

"I was so angry and moved to post because I feel sometimes with people who are real and who do think like this that I'm battling a monster that won't ever die. Hateful people raise hateful children (usually) and it's just an ongoing cycle that I have no weapon against."

Do I ever hear you. Only not just with reproductive rights. I feel this way about misogyny, racism, ethnic cleansing, majoritarian power trips, and other ills I genuinely believe require eradication of the human species in order to disappear. IMO, "fighting the good fight" doesn't mean trying to change humanity; rather, it's doing damage control while we're here on earth.

I also hear what you're saying about anti-abortion sentiments being equally repugnant whether old-school "hate the whore" or the ostensibly more Christ-like "love the sinner" route. My comments in defense of pro-Lifers is directly related to my knowing and having grown up around them (heck, I still occasionally attend conservative evangelical churches). I suppose the fact that I have intimate knowledge of many truly compassionate and Concerned--and, I must stress, NON-hypocritical-- anti-choicers is the source of my caution in painting all of them with the same brush. (Well, that and I work in a field that categorically rejects generalizations of any kind).

Most of the Christian anti-choicers I know: (1) genuinely believe that both men and women are hurting themselves and each other emotionally by having sex that is not solemnized by a lifetime union/marriage; (2) are equally disturbed and dismayed by men's non-marital sexcapades as by women's (no "boys will be boys" winks and nudges in these communities!); (3) TRULY believe that all human creatures have souls that will live on after death in some capacity, that the unborn have full-fledged human souls, (4) that pregnant women who've aborted really WILL eventually suffer long-lasting psychological and emotional turmoil, and, incidentally, (4) that eternal life in Christ's kingdom will be a joyful existence and that denying any of God's children (which includes all colors, nationalities, religions, and sexual orientations) a chance at this this Kingdom is a cruelty of the highest order. "Denying" would mean not sharing Christian beliefs with non-Believers, BTW.

A few of these people have only talked the talk, so to speak. But the majority of them really are "pro-life" in every way imaginable (including doing massive amounts of charity work domestically and abroad; working for AIDS patients; setting up single mothers with jobs and meals for their kids; and generally opposing the death penalty and euthanasia alike). All believe in abstinence-education for non-married people, but encourage birth control within marriage.

So, I have trouble dismissing the pro-Life position on the basis of its adherents alone. As for the tacitly misogynistic and clearly hypocritical amongst the anti-choicers, I think their rhetoric is far more easily attacked because of its very hypocrisy.

I believe one "doable or workable goal is for pro-choicers and reasonable pro-Lifers like the ones I described above to unite behind a comprehensive sex ed plan that stresses Abstinence but encourages birth control/condoms in its absence. I believe this can actually happen, so don't give up hope...on that point, anyway. ONe step at a time, right?