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Female Boxing

This entry may end up being a rant more than anything.

Early this evening, UFC fights on prime time television featured the fights of female MMA fighter Gina Carano. I spent 8 years of my adolescent playing baseball and holding my own with a large number of very unwelcoming boys, so I applaud any woman trying to make her way into an male dominated arena. Gina Carano is a powerful talented fighter.

Yet, the assholes I live with thought it would be appropriate to sexualize everything she did in the fight. 30 seconds into the fight I was so fed up with their "yeah baby"s and "take your shirt off" I called them idiots and left the room.

Venting aside my point is this: even though female boxers are a powerful example of strong women, men still managed to reduce their training and preparation and work down to a cat fight between girls. One of the announcers said, the girl Gina was fighting pulled her hair and laughed.

I am crazy to think that most men's reaction to female boxing is similar to this, just some fucking sex scene in a bad porn for their entertainment. Why can't female athletes bodies be respected for their talent and not just their sexual capacity. Why are so many men so afraid of talented female athletes?

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Christ, I know. It reminds me of during the Olympics when the appearances of the athletes were discussed far more often than their athletic prowess.

I think this happens for two main reasons (that I can think of now, anyway): first, men are just used to thinking that they can comment on women regardless of whether or not said woman could kick their ass. We're judged by if we're attractive or fuckable, not by what we say or do. Second, the infantalizing language (cat fights instead of real fights, "girl" athlete instead of athlete, etc.) helps them keep their feeling of superiority-- she's not a threat to them, she's just in a GIRL fight. She's not going to try to change their status quo, she's just a GIRL. It's sick, sad, and wrong.

[0+] Author Profile Page Jean valjean said:

I watched that fight with two of my friends and none of us made such comments.

That said, we all agreed that Carano is freakin' hot and we'd love it if she beat us up too!

There ware also a few comments when they showed scenes of her not making weight in a previous fight. It was something about how lucky her trainers were to be holding the towels covering her naked body.

Would we have said that about men? No. Why? Because the naked male form has no real value.

As for the comments made when you watched it my first thought was they made those comments because you were in the room. You exude a contempt for anything male and even if they didn't know who you are they can tell what you are.


And in the end you left the room which means they got what they wanted.

You know equality means that you might not be privileged all the time. The fact that they did things to alienate you and drive you away means they were treating you EXACTLY like they would treat any man they also didn't like.

[0+] Author Profile Page gopher said:

I love Gina Carano! Her body is a slab of highly trained athletic muscle! Obviously, that asshole announcer needed to feel superior and when the women werent reinforcing their bullshit ideas of a 'catfight' they felt threatened and cowardly had to drop in some sort of sexism to maintain their insulated denial.

[0+] Author Profile Page timothy_nakayama said:

I sometimes think that the only true way of getting these men's respect in sports would be for both men and women to compete together.

Afterall, if men see that women have to have a separate competition (ie. PGA and LPGA NBA and WNBA), most men will automatically assume that the men's competition is of a higher standard.

But if you put both men and women in the same competition, then when you see women whopping ass, then the men will have no excuses and can't say that the women were weaker. Afterall, men's sports are always about good sportsmanship (hence the handshaking seen at the end of games and the attitude of "the better man won, you beat me fair and square") and they will have to admit that they lost fair and square.

I guess the ring doesn't matter what set of genitalia you have...the winner will always be the better fighter with the passion to win, man or woman.


[0+] Author Profile Page kamak said:

I find it so fascinating when a woman wants to make her way into the male dominating arena. I truly believe that men take it as a joke when they hear about a woman wanting to do a man sport. It feels to me as a shield of denial for men because its almost as if their of afraid that a woman can actually beat them at something! There are circumstances if you really think about it though, yes a woman can be tougher or better than a man but then theres the part about it being ok for a man to hit a woman. Does it make a difference whether it is a sport or not that a man has the right to hit a woman ??

[0+] Author Profile Page ThereisNoFreedom said:

But what about Tom Brady, Oscar De La Hoya or any other attractive male athlete? Don't they become an object in the eyes of their admirers of the opposite sex?

@kamak Women are indeed insecure, critical and self consious - this is a myth, women are indeed self consious but when it comes to dealing with women vs women, no matter if its boxing, or general mma - you can bet that each woman will give it all 110% each - the advantages of the female gender is multiple though processing - being able to read the oponents moves, minds, sets, dodges and general just reading what move they are going to go for. I do not think its dominating, I think its entertaining and interesting - if the woman wants to box, and its not harming anyone else or not harming her ultimatley, society allows such freedom

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