You Can Be a Well-Educated Girl, As Long As You're Still Into Guys

I really don't know what to say about this. If I were to voice my discomfort, I'd put it down to arguing that the author of the op piece is putting forth the idea that the humanisation of a girl is her heterosexual interest in the opposite sex, and that that nullifies her being "brainy and driven".

It's two in the morning and I'm a bit groggy so I'm not feeling very articulate, but is it just me who finds that post somewhat offensive? Because "talk of boys and complaints about school work still trump debates on world affairs" does not constitute, in my opinion, an optimistic viewpoint.

And I'd personally rather talk about politics than my love life, four out of five times.

It's disheartening that this comes when a recent Feministing featured post was on women in math and science. Especially when considering the future generation of scholars. *sigh*

Posted by beka - November 18, 2008, at 01:52PM | in Education
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[0+] Author Profile Page doubleb said:

I think that criticizing the author for not including possible homosexual teenage girls in her one line comment is at the far end of overly demanding political correctness. Saying teenage girls are interested in teenage boys just doesn't seem offensive to me. It seems casually true. Of course I'm sure that I'll get blasted for this approach by a good number of readers here, but it seems like loudly pointing out the couple of Fir trees when someone says "This is a maple forest."

Regardless, this does seem like a Sarah Palin-esque "You should like me because I'm just as dumb as everyone else!" kind of approach. I would rather hear that the very bright girls were more interested in world affairs than in gossip.

Yeah, I agree that you're going overboard with the PC. Boys and schoolwork really are what teenage girls talk about, even smart ones.

You can argue that her attitude ("I'm so relieved that smart people are human!") is a little annoying, but I wouldn't call it offensive. If you're finding it offensive, you're reading way too much into it.

And I might be reading too much into this post, and you did say you're groggy, but: "I'm disappointed that smart girls talk about boys" is way more annoying than whatever the writer of the blog post is saying. Since when do smart girls have to be asexual? You may rather talk about politics that your love life, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it really doesn't make you smarter or a better feminist than a woman who does enjoy discussing her love life.

[0+] Author Profile Page Louise said:

It's strange, seeing as I'm usually the one that thinks people are overreacting to things like this, but I do see your point. I don't think the author did it on purpose, but the piece does have an "It's OK, they're not really smart, they're still just silly womenfolk!" vibe to it, so I do understand why you would see this as offensive.

[0+] Author Profile Page miki_mouse said:

I think the problem with the article is not that it's pointing out the girls were talking about boys, but the fact someone felt they needed to point this out at all. Would we see an article about what a group of highly intelligent boys were talking about? I bet it wouldn't be quantum physics or something. As a high school teacher, I can say from experience that the majority of teenagers are focused mainly on their own lives and problems. They don't often sit around talking about world peace. Teens in general talk about relationships, school work, annoying parents and their hobbies (be in shopping, video games, tv etc). There are the exceptions of course (including the ones who read/contribute to this site often times) but it's not the general rule.

[0+] Author Profile Page FGJ said:

This article did bother me a little. However, I wasn't bothered that it suggested that "smart girls" have interests in common with "normal girls." However, what I do find very dangerous, is the notion that intellectual pursuits are less human and that it would be bad if that's what they spent their time talking about. The attitude that intellectual pursuits are uncool is a major obstacle to closing the gender gap in math and science.

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