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Me and MIA

The NY Times coverage of MIA has held her accountable for certain statements she has made in support of the Tamils in Sri Lanka – and, because she has certain connections to the terrorists or whatever you call them, I call them terrorists – the LTTE -- she has been characterized as having dissonant politics. 

That article, and Samhita’s response made me think about my complicated relationship with MIA.  Let me be clear, I’m not objective, and I’m not an expert.  I’m a girl from NYC whose parents are from Sri Lanka. I’m Sinhalese and a Buddhist.  I’m a sister and a cousin, a lawyer and writer and I think MIA looks familiar, sorta like family, somehow.

I’ve realized that I’m of two minds.  One part of me she says she speaks as a Tamil on behalf of Tamils about their issues, which is laudatory, but it appears that she is using her status to sow more discord and anger than to promote conciliation and peace.  She also speaks without thinking.  She claims that there is a genocide going on in Sri Lanka – which, with only a little research, can be debunked.  But she’s trying to draw negative attention on the Sri Lankan government.  She could do that a lot better if she called for accountability for Sri Lankan army violations of human and humanitarian rights and disparaged the government’s ludicrous decision to throw the press out.  They’ve done enough for her to use facts and truth to make her point.  But what is her point, really? Surely she doesn’t want the war to continue on indefinitely.  We all know that a military solution is not a solution at all and that at some point, we’re going to have to talk to each other and work with each other. Not all of us think that all Tamils are terrorists, and wouldn’t it be nice if she was rallying people to work together to forge a way out of this disaster? 

The other part of me realizes that although this is my personal plea to MIA, who the hell am I to tell her what to do?  She can and should and does say whatever she wants.  She’s not under any obligation to be correct – she’s speaking from her perspective, her personal experience.  We all absorb things from our upbringing and it takes time to parse out what is our feeling and thoughts, versus what we were brought up with. Why does her speaking her mind warrant a NY Times response? 

We all love the Dalai Lama, don’t we?  But he’s made homophobic comments.  We love Miles Davis, who beat his wife. We love sports whose players take drugs, cheat on their wives and shoot themselves in the leg.  We love to listen to hip hop and rap artists whose videos and verses objectify women, promote violence and perpetuate negative stereotypes. I don’t buy products that test on animals, but I’ll eat animals.  I listen to Miles but not MIA.  Don’t tell me that you’re not equally paradoxical. 

We can’t help who we love sometimes, and if you can listen to MIA’s music without being bothered by her lyrics, or see her videos without being bothered by the imagery, that is fine.  I can’t stop you, nor do I want to - that is how it should be.

As an aside, just recently, Sri Lankan Tamil students held a protest at York University in Canada where they held up the LTTE’s flag and burned the Sri Lankan flag.  So what, though, I ask them, I ask MIA, I ask my father:  What’s next?  We have loved and hated each other for centuries.  Are you going to perpetuate that history or are you going to decide to make a new world?  The lion on the flag they burned is from the last kingdom of Sri Lanka, which was ruled by a king who was a Nayakar - a South Indian.  So what is it that you are burning? Not my heritage - but how about OURS?

In the end, I agree with Samhita in her skepticism about how we characterize women, women of color, women from marginalized communities, women who say things that a lot of us will disagree with.  But you can’t judge her.  God knows I’ve tried to judge MIA and hate her, but it is not easy.  We all love and hate who we will and draw our lines in the sand based on our own personal histories.  

Posted by jayasinghe - February 20, 2009, at 10:30AM | in Deep Thoughts
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Jayasinghe,

You may not be aware of this, being a Sinhalese Buddhist and all, but there is a long history in your country of the Sinhalese majority repressing the Tamil minority.

Why do you think they're fighting for independence in the first place?

Yes, the LTTE have used some truly awful tactics - including suicide bombings.

But, the Sri Lankan Army has waged a race war against the Tamil community in the North and East of your country - even going so far as using rape of Tamil women and girls as a tactic of war.

This is quite well documented - all you have to do is look it up.

M.I.A. herself is a REFUGEE from Sri Lanka - why do you think she and her family had to flee?

At this moment, the Sri Lankan Army is waging what can only be described as a genocidal war against the Tamils in the far north of Sri Lanka - they've even gone so far as to bombard hospitals and refugee camps with heavy artillery.

In light of those facts, is their any wonder why so many Tamils - in Sri Lanka, in India, in the Gulf states, in England, in Canada and here in the USA, support the LTTE?

For the record, although M.I.A.s dad was an LTTE supporter, she herself does NOT support the LTTE.

She DOES support autonomy and self determination for her people, the Sri Lankan Tamils and she DOES oppose the genocidal war currently in progress in Sri Lanka.

And can you blame her?

You don't even have to be Tamil - or even South Asian - to see the justice in their position.

[0+] Author Profile Page taradevi replied to GREGORYABUTLER :

GregoryAButler,
You have a wonderfully self-righteous post there. I definitely appreciate your recognition of the history of Sri Lanka's civil war. That said, I also find your reaction to Jaysinghe terribly emblematic of the reactions of most "liberals" in the US (as well as people of other political persuasions): The attitude that simply because a speaker is of a group that has had members that have historically oppressed another group, that speaker has no right to, well, speak to to violence committed by that oppressed group. (that said, you may or may not be in the US)

I resent the implication that anyone within a historically oppressive group is unaware of the politically fraught history of "their" group and, indeed, that this awareness has to play out as blind agreement with everything the historically-oppressed group does, too.

Both Tamil and Sinhalese people (as well as those of other groups in Sri Lanka) have been tragically affected by the violence in the country. I love MIA's music now, but that's pretty irrelevant to what I'm saying here.

It's great to call on people to be aware of their role as products of and agents in history, as you have said to Jayasinghe. But why do you not ask the same thing of MIA?

Sorry but facts are facts, and the aggrieved party in this case is the Sri Lankan Tamil community.

Here's another link on what's really going on in Sri Lanka. It's from Agence France Presse, but, ironically enough, I got the link from M.I.A.s myspace blog:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gzBXvGtbnWeSBlmcRNanP-B30SRQ

Oh, and I forgot to mention, the LTTE signed a cease fire with the government of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka in 2002.

Here's the full text :

http://www.peaceinsrilanka.org/peace2005/Insidepage/Agreements/agceasefire.asp

Guess who violated it?

Hint - not the LTTE!

So who's the terrorists?

And who wants peace?

[0+] Author Profile Page brokaaww said:

I think another facet of MIA's slightly controversial lyrical pot-stirring is that that's how most rock stars build their reputation on their earlier records. I think her first album definitely had a greater number of politically charged tunes, but most of those all but disappeared on Kala, either because she just omitted those topics or because her superb, challenging rhythms just drowned them in a sea of insignificance.

But back to the first point, look at Boogie Down Productions' first record Criminally Minded, or the Clash's debut LP. While the latter is a strong armed, anarchistic rabble rouser, the former is all but a call to arms for disaffected black youth. But fast forward to BDP's next record and what is its most memorable cut - "Stop the Violence." And while the Clash never stop stirring the pot, they may has well added Bob Marley as a fifth member for all their reggae-inspired feel-goodery.

So maybe MIA's comments are just rep-cementing disses with little purpose than to prove what a bad ass she is (And she sure as hell is a bad ass). Once she realizes her own power in pop music culture, she may switch to a more peaceful message, but I guarantee it'll be no less raucous and aggressive than before.

[0+] Author Profile Page sarahd_lush said:

Don’t tell me that you’re not equally paradoxical.

Well said.

[0+] Author Profile Page DannyFreeman said:

I think Gregory basically summed it up. This article is pretty flawed. MIA is raising awareness for the ongoing genocide happening in Sri Lanka against her Tamil people. I can assure you it's not a myth, because if you check today's news, the human rights watch have just published a report accusing the Sri Lankan government of shelling into Tamil civilian areas.

Despite what the girl who wrote this article may think... MIA has a fan base of MILLIONS, and she is doing good by raising awareness against the genocide of her people.

[0+] Author Profile Page Rainey said:

Thank you for your rational commentary. I was really not fond of Samhita's gross simplification of the NY Times article (which at no point called MIA a terrorist) and other people's critiques of MIA. It seemed more of knee jerk response, which she gave away in her last statement "I just really love her (MIA)." Like you said, plenty of us love Davis, the Dalai Lama, etc., but that appreciation for what they do in some realms does not mean we should give them cart blanche for other actions or statements they make. These people are human like the rest of us, and we can appreciate MIA's music and the stand she is taking for women and people of color in a very sexist industry, but that doesn't make her perfect or immune to scrutiny.

[0+] Author Profile Page LalaReina said:

I like MIA, a lot. I like a lot of things and people I wouldn't want to line item sign off on everything in their life. And yes, I thought the article was off as well. This my girl right there.

[0+] Author Profile Page Lisa said:

There is a lot to be said in this discussion and being raised on one side of any conflict is going to impact your interpretation. Clearly M.I.A. is not going to be neutral in her analysis, but the fact that this dialogue is happening at all means that she has successfully brought awareness to an issue that was largely unknown in places like the U.S. (I suspect this is true elsewhere, but I can't really speak for other countries). Now that the situation has entered public conscious, people like the original poster can weigh in with their perspective.

[0+] Author Profile Page anteup said:

I see you there Ted Leo reference, be it intentional or unintentional.

[0+] Author Profile Page Tsunade replied to anteup :

I noticed that too.

I uh, love MIA a lot. Awesome post.

[0+] Author Profile Page jayasinghe said:

Gregory - In a comment I wrote to Samhita's original post, I said pretty much what you did (except that I have done actual academic research on this) - that the tamils have legitimate grievances based on being marginalized over many years by the majority. But our history dates back further than that - we've been living together for many hundreds of years, a history which I know better than you, so I'll thank you to check your assumptions on what I do or do not know about our history. Being Sinhalese and Buddhist doesn't mean that I suddenly go brain dead about Sri Lanka's history.

Not everyone against the LTTE suddenly blindly jumps on the government's bandwagon. Some of us are looking to bridge gaps and find another way.

My post was about my personal reaction to MIA and the way the press has covered her. I think your comment was not only a thinly veiled personal attack under the guise of righteou rhetoric, it was also misplaced. It must be nice to see the world so black and white, but I just can't do that.

Danny - just a fact checking thing - the HRW report accused both sides of the conflict: "Human Rights Watch also called on the LTTE to allow civilians to leave the war zone, stop shooting at those who try to flee to government-controlled territory, and cease deploying forces near populated areas."


Thanks everyone for their comments - even you, Gregory.

So, with all your shades of grey nuances and academic research, what would you suggest the Tamils do?

Lay down and die?

Or fight back with whatever means are available - including methods that are ugly and brutal?

Think about it - and imagine if those 155mm artillery shells were being fired at YOUR village - what would YOU do?

[0+] Author Profile Page Ruth787 said:

I kind of don't understand all the love for the LTTE that I'm seeing here. I'm a fan of MIA as well, but the LTTE is notorious for its use of child soldiers (the rehabilitation of whom is my thesis topic). I don't know enough about the situation in Sri Lanka to cast judgment on their motives, but I think judgment should be cast on their methods. Whether or not a genocide is going on, the use of child soldiers is a war crime and a crime against humanity. The LTTE aren't innocent freedom fighters. Whatever the Sinhalese majority is doing, whatever deplorable tactics are being used against the Tamil minority, the use of child soldiers is never justified. So let's not oversimplify this issue.

Ruth,

I don't have any particular love for the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (I used to work in the WTC, so I'm not a big fan of suicide bombers).

With that said, the LTTE's violence has to be understood in the context of them defending the Tamils against a genocidal war by the Sinhalese dominated Sri Lankan Army - who, among other atrocities, have used rape of Tamil women and girls as a tactic of war, and are, at this very moment, firing cannons into Tamil hospitals and refugee camps.

Oh and incidentally, we are paying for the Sri Lankan Army's atrocities, because the Sri Lankan Army is funded, trained and armed by the United States.

So it's not so much that I "love the LTTE".

I just hate the Sri Lankan Army that much more - especially since I'm helping to pay for their rapes and murders of Tamils.

[0+] Author Profile Page Ruth787 replied to GREGORYABUTLER :

Okay, I understand that the Sri Lankan army is not some paragon of holiness. I'll defer to you on how to judge their actions because I don't know much about this conflict (my research is largely centered in West Africa). But there is NEVER justification for the use of child soldiers. It doesn't matter what context you put the violence in. It doesn't even matter if the children volunteer or if they are forcibly conscripted. The use of children under the age of 18 in war is a crime against humanity, and the International Criminal Court was designed for people like the LTTE leaders who commit such atrocities. I don't see the recruitment and use of child soldiers as such a lesser evil than the use of rape in wartime--and I don't say that lightly. But both acts permanently scar their victims in ways that are so vitally deep that some victims never recover. A child soldier carries those wounds forever. No situation justifies the recruitment of children as soldiers.

[0+] Author Profile Page afb1221 said:

I love MIA and I really liked this article too. lots to think about. thanks for sharing your insights.

I am sorry for it, but the word "terrorism" has no meaning anymore. Maybe it should, and maybe we should insist on using it consistently and with an actual definition, but right now - in this particular day and age - I cannot use that word, in post-2001 the word does not mean "an organization that commits acts of terror on a regular basis" (by which both the Sri Lankan state and the LTTE would be labeled as such) but "an opponent to the states that are friendly to the rulers of US/Europe et al". That is not an acceptable definition.

And the function of the word is no longer to differentiate between certain acts but to shut down discussions, it is a demonizing word that means support for the oppressive states and their wars and no-way-out for the groups given this stamp. In post-2001 a group labeled as "terrorist" means that it is not worthy of being talked with, it means it's views are no longer valid, it means that no discussion is allowed, it means no peace-talks. To label a group as "terrorist" is a declaration of war and an end of debate - informally and formally / legally.

When that is said, I agree with you, that LTTE is an organization that has committed acts of terror (violence against civilians in order to spread terror). In this proper use of the word, I agree with you. I have said why I shiver at your using the word because in these times it has a completely different meaning and function. You want the parties to talk - but using this word, unfortunately, today has the opposite function ... "we do not talk with terrorists" means there can be no peace except through annihilation, and that only the states / the existing powers have legitimacy.

If we recognize that acts of terror do exist and have a proper meaning. If we want a rational discourse. Then we would have to say, honestly, that the Sri Lankan State AND the LTTE have committed such acts. Then what? That would actually be a good idea in the first place: to acknowledge responsibility and harmful acts that happened is probably a necessity for future positive relations. Both parties have done acts in violations of the Geneva convention (which is for states - it is very hard for groups without state-power to fight with the same standards as whole armies can) etc and terrorized civilians - let's acknowledge that, and then start talking and see what we can do for the future, to move on.

Unfortunately that is not the function of this label anymore, and therefore I hesitate to use it and I shiver when it is used, because it has the opposite effect now. To use the word "terrorist" today means: no peace, no talks, no acknowledgment of state terrorism and oppression, no solutions and no debate.

The Sri Lankan state has, as so many other states (that is an inherent part of nationalism) systematically oppressed a cultural/ethnic minority. Countries that used to follow the refugee-convention like Canada and Western Europe once sort-of did (not meant as a praise, just to point out that they don't even assume anymore) can testify to that: we have lots of Tamil refugees who proved they were indeed persecuted as an ethnic group (trust me - it is not like the European states would not deny them asylum if it was not proven beyond all legal loopholes).

So, the Tamils have as a group been oppressed and denied justice. Does this legitimize "terror" and the LTTE? That is not a simple question! Because it does indeed mean that there was just cause for rebelling. Not by any means, but what means where available? If fighting back is justified but we say "but you can only do it with the same means as the occupying/oppressing state" to a people who has no such means, then aren't we rather hypocritical in our so-called defense of the cause? In fact we would in effect be supporting the state and the military. It is hard and complicated to be a group that is oppressed and does not have the same means as the oppressor.

This does not mean that everything this group does is then justified. Of course not! It just makes it very complicated if one wants to have a world of absolutes, which is what the label "terrorist organization" creates. The very label is in it's modern definition a blanket support for the powers-that-be and an eradication of the oppressed group AND their cause from public discourse. Using the word "terrorist organization" today - no matter how correct it may be - makes it impossible to really acknowledge that oppression exists and is wrong, because it is the oppressed are always labeled as "terrorists" and beyond debate.

I can also testify that, in my experience, rather many Tamil refugees in Europe kind-of support the Tigers - not in a everything-they-do way, but in the way they they are a symbol of their cause, they fight the reason they had to flee. This may be wrong and naive and simplified, but things probably tend to get more simplified when you are further away from the conflict (likewise I can testify that there are more Hamas-supporters amongst Palestinian refugees than among Palestinians in Palestine, and I think the reason is, that for the refugees the organization becomes a symbol of their struggle rather than a complicated real thing).

I think the Western discourse proves that - we are mentally far away from every conflict and see only absolutes. In real life, there are organizations that commit acts of terror at various degrees and sometimes oppressed people do wrong things and states are terrorists and that is all very complex. The US/EU "terror lists", laws and discourse do not allow this recognition of reality. This "new world order" (I know that is an abused term in the US, used by nazis and stuff) basically says: States (except "rogue states" of course, defined by the US government) are all okay and can do whatever they want, whereas if you are not a state, all you can do is write petitions while you get killed. Now - killing and terrorizing civilians is wrong! Of course it is (when both parties do it). But the "terror"-label today just doesn't help if what you want is for the killing to STOP. Today that word only works as a support for the status quo and war.


This is why I really don't like the use of that word. It is a dangerous word. It blocks reason.


PS. I really apologize for the long post!

In this discussion most people are at least acknowledging that oppression exists and is not legitimate, even though there is differences about what forms of resistance are acceptable and what should be done about it. Imagine if a discussion like this had been possible about Palestine among US liberals... including this site.
Sigh ...

This is a good debate, I wish everybody will keep it in mind and apply the same-types of arguments consistently in similar scenarios elsewhere.

As a Canadian, we can have a talk of the main ethnic minority in Canada, to which I belong, French Canadians, and there has been much conflict now and in the past between English Canadians and French Canadians, even terrorism. But in Canada our solution to the problems of a significant minority was not to strip us of our rights and our humanity, but to afford us more rights, and to work to preserve and promote not just our culture, but all of our diverse cultures across all of the ethnicities that make up Canada. Today, that includes both Sinhalese and Tamils.

Until the Sri Lankan government adopts that attitude, it is nonsense for a member of the ruling ethnicity to say words like "our nation", when it is clearly your nation, yet unshared with Tamils. The same is true for any other country which faces resistance and terrorism from it's minorities.

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