I just found this.
Here's a nice excerpt: "So despite all of their delusions and lip service, in their heart of hearts, women by their very nature are very, very lazy with no drive and really just want to lounge around and do nothing..."
I really don't know what to say about it. I read about half of it thinking the guy was just joking, but by the time I got to his blogspot profile and realized he has thirteen of these hate-filled, blindingly stupid blogs.
So uh... don't read this if you're easily angered (like me), because you'll end up sitting in front of your laptop seething in anger for an hour (like me).
Someone please tell me this isn't real... or that this is just one wildly bitter, insane man sitting alone in his parents' basement somewhere, or... something. I'm having trouble processing this, honestly, but I thought it deserved to be shared as a blunt reminder of what exactly we're fighting.
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"Someone please tell me this isn't real... or that this is just one wildly bitter, insane man sitting alone in his parents' basement somewhere, or... something."
Totally the latter. Only someone living in his parent's basement (or anyone's basement for that matter, not to knock those of us with supporting families) would have enough time to collect all those images! Haha. Yeah "centered" format! Rock it!
I reported the blog. It fit the bill for hate speech.
Yeah they're all pretty revolting. I think he's connected to this site...
http://www.mens-rights.net/forum/
Which in many ways is even worse than the blog - especially "Pastor Bob". Personally I think it's a good thing, because it shows MRA's to be the insecure arseholes that they usually are. It's especially funny when one person strays slightly from the hard-line, and then there's two pages of everyone calling each other "manginas". Good times.
I reported the blog too. Maybe if Blogger gets enough complaints it can't possibly ignore them?
Is this real? wow...
I especially liked the pic at the beginning showing the wholesome woman of 50 years ago, a June Cleaver look alike, and the disgusting-herpes-covered-disgusting-feminists of today, the lesbians.
Seriously - do people actually believe that? I'm quite prone to black-and-white thinking, and even for me, I'm having trouble comprehending the gigantic leap this guy is making.
Goddess I laughed till I almost peed. The best thing is the "wholesome" woman pic he used is Shirley Jones from the seventies when she played the Mom on The Partridge Family. You know the show about the single mother of 5 who goes off to work with her kids in a psychedelic bus. Talk about priceless.
Laugh at people like this it takes their power away poof - they get mad when you do so if you do it face to face be ready to duck.
I came across this blog while lurking on askmen's message boards (yeah, I apparently felt I needed to get mad that day), and I wish someone would out this dude's identity.
The reason I say this is that he has boasted openly on those boards about his hatred of women in the workplace, and that, at his job, he makes a point of ostracizing women until they quit. He takes pride in how many women he has run off from his company. He also thinks he is being really slick about it.
The dude is a liability to his place of employment, and I would be very happy if his HR department found out about it and made him cut it out.
This is a fantastic idea. He's admitting to a crime and a link to this blog should be sent to his employer.
There is a logical fallacy in every other sentence, and a great deal of badly done propaganda. Taking still images of unappealing facial expressions and using them to represent the character of an entire group is only really done by people who would think such things would work. I imagine this person is influenced by similar tactics. The picture of what women are supposed to be (June Cleaver) is fictional. So you have this person with this unrealistic expectation of what women are supposed to be, puts emphases on woman's human failures, and paints images of realistic beautiful women as ugly and subhuman. This person is a simpleton, and is an object of pity.
Reading that blog, I thought it was the most repulsive thing I had ever seen.... and then I read the comments. That site is nothing but horrendous, ignorant hate speech with incorrect statistics and "facts." And, of course, you've gotta love how the blogger just deleted any comments not agreeing with him rather than actually entering into intelligent debate on his hateful vitriol. Ugh.
Some people don't want to engage. They have been blinded for too long by their own opinions. It's unfortunate but we can't exactly change the mind of those who are convinced of their own rightness.
To Laurenautomatic: This guy...you can't. take. him. seriously. Honestly? he's an idiot writing grammatically incorrect rants on the internet. Don't waste your anger on him-use it for the people who try to really affect things in the world, who try to stomp out equality and chip away at what has been achieved. Him, you can laugh off, because he's ridiculous. He's filled with hate, he's not very smart, and impossible to engage, so there's no point to giving him or his trash talking another thought, because he'll never change his mind, and never broaden his horizons.
Going to another point in the comments section: if he's actually causing trouble in his workplace, harassing people, yes, then that's a problem and needs to be addressed. However...this rant? Meaningless.
"Don't waste your anger on him-use it for the people who try to really affect things in the world"
You're totally right. As gross and disgusting as the poster is, he's still just static in the grand scheme of things. Sexism and misogyny is alive and well, but in much subtler forms. We need to (try to) shrug off insects like this and focus on the other tasks in front of us.
All I could think was, "He's so pathetically frightened."
Pretty much.
What people like him don't seem to understand is that for every "bad" example of a female there is a "bad" example of a male.
I've heard many of his mini arguments spouted off by men in forums and people completely accept it. It so pisses me off that it is still acceptable to spread hate about women like this.
So... if women suck so much, men shouldn't waste their time on them, right?
And if men aren't wasting their time on women, they should waste their time on one another, right?
So men should only date other men, right?
Right?
Or would those men be "fags"? I'm so confused!
That blog made me laugh so hard I nearly fell off my chair. Thank you.
That blogger is a very bitter man. I bet he lost out on a job or a promotion to a more qualified woman, and decided to blame "feminism" for his failure.
yeah I was thinking that as well... or maybe rejected in a "romantic" endeavor.
Mrs. Partridge would never do such a thing!
"So uh... don't read this if you're easily angered (like me), because you'll end up sitting in front of your laptop seething in anger for an hour (like me)."
I should have heeded the warning. I am RIDICULOUSLY ambitious, and this man just said that all women are everything that I'm not. Made me sick with anger.
Un-fucking-believable. How does someone develop such a hatred for half the population? I'm more bewildered and curious than angry. I just can't take someone that crazy and paranoid seriously. He's obviously an insecure, frightened, and pathetic little man, but he took it to a whole new level. You can't even argue with someone like that. Well you can but it's kind of like hitting your head against a brick wall over and over again. I mean, wow.
It's just breathtaking, isn't it? Remarkable, really, that someone can be so fundamental about something with NO PROOF.
But we see that a lot, I suppose.
Frightening.
On a complete side note, I liked a couple of the pictures he used, specifically the first one of the women protesting and one later on of two women playing. My immediate thought was 'Those people look Awesome. I'd like to be friends with them.' Not quite the reaction he was going for I suspect.
Me too. I looked at those pics and thought "what cool looking people, and they are so happy in these photos!" He labeled them as disgusting, and I'm like "where, who?"
Here's another one by the same idiot.
Best quotes:
"Women are bizarre and hideous creatures that are dangerously insane and their only function is to have sex."
"even married women today are public property... she is going to sleep with other men, give you diseases & make your life a living HELL & blame it all on you with the law to back her up - guaranteed"
I just reported a bunch of his blogs and I suggest others do the same. They are actually breaching the terms of service.
From blogger: While Blogger values and safeguards political and social commentary, material that promotes hatred toward groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity is not allowed on Blogger.
LMFAO. What a total fuckin' dumbass. Just some troll whose wife probably divorced him and he "just couldn't figure out why."
And if anyone ever needs more evidence of how sexism is tied up with homophobia, no better place to look than here.
Wow. You know, I almost feel sorry for him. How pathetic is his life that he actually spent time and energy making up this really sad and pathetic blahg?
He needs a friend. Not a female friend, necessarily, but a friend who will talk to him and get him out of the house. Either that or he needs a prescription for a mood altering drug. Whichever way it goes, he needs to stop advertising his pathos online.
The thing is, there's always going to be a few hateful nutjobs like this around. They fill a niche by expressing (in a rather incompetent way) the things that some others feel but can't/won't say. People who are bitter about the way their life is going, the powerlessness they feel as a result of being lost in a big and unforgiving system, etc. will cast about for a scapegoat. And in this niche, women (especially feminists) are the scapegoat of choice. But it's motivated by the same kind of thing that motivates Fred Phelps and his crew. The target is just different. In my experience the best thing you can do is ignore them or laugh at them. Some people make satire websites that show how ridiculous they are. This type occasionally comes after me on my blog, and I either just keep deleting their comments until they give up, or if I have the time, patiently respond to each comment by pointing out the fallacies and other logical failures in their thoughts. I happen to teach logic and critical thinking, so this kind of thing is fun to me, but there's no need to feel obligated to engage with them. They're not interested in having a coherent worldview or making sense when it comes right down to it. They'll deny the truth that's right in their face if necessary in order to maintain their view.
Even though I risk being lambasted by the "feminists" here, I am going to give my point of view anyway. Sure, this guy is an ass, and he most definitely has a very distorted view of women. It is painfully obvious he did not have a positive female or male role model in his life. However,if you can see beyond the hateful and naive comments he makes about woman, he actually does make a few valid points. When did Spears, Winehouse, Simpson, Clinton, etc. become the ideal woman? I certainly don't aspire to be like them. I also don't give woman like that a voice, i.e. I don't buy whatever they are selling, I don't listen to their music, don't listen to what they say, don't read about them and I certainly don't waste my precious time gossiping about them. I acknowledge their right to behave however they want, but they will never "speak" for me. Woman behaving badly is no better (or worse for that matter) than a man behaving badly. As humans, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. There are more than a few times that I have felt embarrassment for the way some woman behave. Woman have the power to bring (or not to bring) life into this world, and its high time that women acknowledge, respect and embrace that power. Anyone (male or female) who acts like a piece of garbage should not be surprised when others treat them like garbage. If every woman treated herself with love and respect, perhaps men would follow suit.
I'm curious why you put the word feminists in quotes. To me that generally indicates that we're posturing as if we're feminists when we're actually not. So I guess I'm interpreting your use of the scare quotes as a way to say "so-called feminists." Is this wrong? And if so, what is the significance of the scare quotes?
You shouldn't need to feel defensive Rachel. I put "feminists" in quotes because I feel that the majority of "feminists" have bastardized the very definition of the word. Is reporting that jackass's blog a hate crime part of being a "feminist"? Trolling blogs looking for whom ever else is trolling is a productive use of one's time? That's feminism? If that is feminism, then I don't to be part of it and I would be insulted if someone called me a feminist. He has a right to feel however he wants and hey, he also has a constitutional right to the freedom of speech. Jennie wrote early in this thread that his blog was "horrendous and the most repulsive thing she has ever seen". I have to assume she is very young and very sheltered if that is the most repulsive thing she has ever seen. In fact, I am slightly jealous and happy for her if that truly is the most repulsive thing she has ever seen. I honestly can say that one the most repulsive thing I've ever seen was a picture of a baby girl in China abandoned on the streets for the mere fact that she was female. What are the "feminists" here doing about that? Seems to me that acts like that should be the focus, not some idiots raging blog against woman.
I was feeling defensive? OK. Whatever you say.
Some people think that critiquing pop culture is a valuable feminist activity. If you don't happen to feel that way, then that's OK. But why does that give you a right to suggest that those who disagree with you are unfeminist? Does feminism have to be monolithic? Do all feminists have to agree? It's a strange view you've got there, and it's quite likely according to your logic that you're the only feminist in the world. Good luck with that.
And if you'd a like a blow-by-blow critique of the rest of your comment... here goes.
You don't aspire to be like many female celebrities in our culture, and therefore he has a point about women in general. Um, OK. There's no identifiable logical link between these two propositions, but if that's how you feel, then more power to ya.
He has a right to feel what he wants and to freedom of speech. Therefore we shouldn't critique what he says or take issue with his general attitude. I also don't see how this follows. Also, he's making use of a public space that's made available with a private company that has it's own set of criteria for acceptable speech in their space. The laws of free speech allow for private entities to place limits on the uses of their medium.
The fact that there are other things going on in the world make this kind of misogyny a non-issue for feminists, who should concern themselves primarily with babies in China. While I certainly agree that some offenses are more egregious that others, this doesn't mean that oppression can only take one form, or that feminists should only be concerned about certain types of oppression.
Is that better? Are you sufficiently convinced that I'm not irrationally obsessed with your use of scare quotes?
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask YOU something...out of everything I wrote in my post, your concerned about my use of "scare quotes"(your definition, not mine)???? Focus on the big picture, not the less important little things.
There are more than a few times that I have felt embarrassment for the way some woman behave. Woman have the power to bring (or not to bring) life into this world, and its high time that women acknowledge, respect and embrace that power.
I'm sorry, I think glorification of the ability of women to reproduce is just sexism in disguise. Why should you feel embarrassment over the way other women behave? That doesn't actually reflect on you any more than how men behave.
Your comment:
If every woman treated herself with love and respect, perhaps men would follow suit.
is very suspect. You're acting like women's low self-esteem is the cause of sexism, when if anything it is the other way around. Why are you blaming women for how men act?
I think glorification of the ability of women to reproduce is just sexism in disguise
One of the most interesting things to me about the history of feminism and the rhetoric surrounding it is the use of essentialist ideas, on both sides of the issue. This reminds me of the ideal of the "superior moral compass" that was supposed to be inherent in women by virtue of their nurturing nature, that was actually used by first-wave feminists in their fight for suffrage.
That's interesting. I dislike essentialist arguments, but I imagine that in the 1800s it would have been one of the more persuasive arguments. Sometimes you have to talk in terms that the opposition will understand. The problem is that when you embrace essentialist assumptions in your arguments, they can just as easily be used against you.
What I think is funny is that your comment reminds me of a lot of things I have seen lately about how the US economy wouldn't have crashed if more women had been working at the banks and in the stock market. The reasoning is that women, who have less testosterone, would have made less risky judgments and kept the economy stable.
Isn't that basically saying that women should be more involved in the economy because they have a superior moral compass? And isn't basing it on something like hormone levels basically essentialist?
I am not saying that hormones don't effect behavior, but they are certainly not the only thing that influences behavior. More women involved in banking probably would help our economy, but I don't think it's because we have less testosterone.
"I'm sorry, I think glorification of the ability of women to reproduce is just sexism in disguise."
I wasn't trying to disguise that as sexism. It IS sexist. Females of any species is superior by nature due to the fact that they CAN reproduce.
Why should you feel embarrassment over the way other women behave? That doesn't actually reflect on you any more than how men behave.
You can honestly tell me that you have never felt embarrassment for a woman who behaves like she's a piece of crap. When men believe (and some do) that all woman act like garbage, then it does indirectly affect me and incidentally, you.
So how do you get moral superiority from reproductive superiority? That seems like a giant jump to me. And how is that different from saying "men are usually physically stronger than women, therefore they are usually morally stronger too"?
This simply doesn't mesh with your age-of-accountability and personal responsibility shtick in your comment further down. If we're all purely rational, fully autonomous beings who aren't influenced or constructed by our cultural environment, then how can I be held accountable for the behavior of other women? They're not me, and I am only responsible for myself and my own actions.
1. I am not my uterus. I don't plan to ever use my uterus, to be honest. I admire people who have children but I don't think it's my cup of tea. Does that make me less powerful of a woman? No. I am powerful because of my ability to embrace life and bring forth ideas, not because of my ability to embrace men and bring forth babies.
Parenting is the true challenge, not creating babies. Raising children is what changes the world, and both men and women can do that equally well.
Nothing makes me angrier than when sexist men pretend to put women on a pedestal. They call us the superior sex, but at the same time they rigidly define that to mean that women all have to act a certain way in order to qualify: peaceful, demure, nurturing, graceful, and complacent. We're the superior sex... as long as we do what we are told. All kinds of condescending, paternalistic behavior is justified with this logic.
2.) Yes. I can tell you I have never felt embarrassed based on how another woman was behaving. Sometimes I do judge other women for their behavior, but I always feel more embarrassed for them than for myself. I would feel the same way about a man who was making a fool of himself.
3.) The way that your attitude about "commanding respect" is victim-blaming has already been addressed. How I behave is my responsibility. How other people behave is theirs.
"If every woman treated herself with love and respect, perhaps men would follow suit.
is very suspect. You're acting like women's low self-esteem is the cause of sexism, when if anything it is the other way around. Why are you blaming women for how men act?"
At the age of majority one becomes responsible for their own actions, do not blame others for your own shortcomings. I am not naive as to believe that sexism does not contribute to a females low self-esteem. However, If a female ALLOWS sexism to affect her self esteem, then she is just fueling the belief that sexism is the root of one's self esteem.
And again, as I've said before, if a woman treats herself like a worthless piece of garbage then she should not be surprised when a man follows suit. If you are not willing to treat yourself with respect you can not expect anyone else to treat you with respect. Respect is commanded, not demanded.
The ironic thing is, your rhetoric isn't even original. Victim-blaming is a classic meme that's reverted to consistently whenever class struggle or any fight for social change is going on. Rather than changing the broken or inherently hierarchical system that gives rise to oppression, we should all police our own behavior in the hopes that those in power will like us enough to relent and let go of their hierarchical position. If we're just cute enough, and wear the right kind of bow, and do the right kind of song and dance... Right, OK.
I certainly wouldn't aspire to be Spears or Simpson either. The problem I have with this argument, and the one in the blog also, is that fact that- count how many you said you'd not aspire to be- these are only 4 women out of the millions in the country and the world. The blogger uses only a part of the population of women from which to make his accusations, totally disregarding the rest of the female population. Yes, obviously women who aren't celebrities act like them, but is that the majority? I'd make a logical assumption that it's not. By the rules of statistics and sampling and generalizing, basing generalizations of a huge population off of a tiny sample and calling them true is entirely wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that both sexes should hold themselves to a higher standard of behavior, but people don't unfortunately. It just bugs me how generalizations about the female population are based off of a few people that happen to be in the spotlight all the time.
I only mentioned those 4 because they were part of the jackass's montage. I personally don't aspire to be like anyone other than myself. Not to say that there aren't men and woman that I admire, I admire quite a few people actually. I just try to nurture the good things about myself and attempt to "fix" the things that I don't like.
This always makes me wonder, how many men are wandering around entertaining ideas like these, in whole or in part?
Also, I don't understand why men can't be whatever they think men are without the approval and reinforcement of women. That seems so... weak.
Few men are walking around with these ideas, in whole or in part.
I looked at the link, and I found the blog this guy had up revolting....but it's not too hard to find revolting things on the internet. Most guys would go to lengths to avoid being lumped together with this bigot. And the guy is a bigot, and not just about gender issues, but race and religion too.
So please don't lump all of us, or even most of us, in with this bigot.
In terms of why men need approval and reinforcement from women, well, to some of us women occupy intensely important places in our lives. Of course we will need reinforcement and approval. Don't you? Further, if a man wants to have a girlfriend or wife, he better seek approval! Shouldn't seeking approval be considered progress?
Hiya! I reported that blog too...It is scary how many hateful idiots there are in this world! BTW...Realty2008 is indeed a nutjob..I frequently post on a womans website that has a bunch of boards and he trolls there quite often although I think his IP has finally been perma banned!!
Nothing to boost your credibility like ripping off the Time Cube guy's site layout.
hahahahaha.
Funny, I knew exactly which site you'd found just by reading the comments. I went through the whole thing one evening, found it to be mainly drivel of a slightly schizoid bent without any shadow of coherence or any attempts at valid arguments.
The best (and most telling) part is the segment where he talks about divorce and child support payments -- it is made SO fucking obvious by the tone of his words that this bitter and flailing idiot is in fact a bitter and flailing divorcee. It explains a lot.
Quite frankly chaps like this are in unique situations. Based on my own observation it seems that their towering RAGE stems mostly from the fact that they're still sexually attracted to women, even though some of them (Mr. Bitter Impotent Divorcee included) seem to be quite actively trying to persuade themselves that they should NOT be because women are so horrible. (It is noteworthy to mention that women are usually deemed "horrible" in the minds of these fellows because women express, you know, human intellect and opinions, including a strong disinclination to get naked with these guys.)
They'd almost certainly be a lot less rage-filled if they could all spontaneously become sexually attracted to toasters. But they can't, and the people they ARE sexually attracted to won't sleep with them because they are frothingly misogynistic chucklefucks. It's funny because it's so pathetic.
I have a toaster I could donate to this cause.
Maybe with enough funding and the proper research, we could make this happen?
I'm just saying. ;-)
P.S. It's the worst toaster in the world. I only use it because it's free. It is made out of stainless steel, and the sides of the toaster get hot enough to burn you when you are making toast with it. I often forget this fact and burn myself with it. Stupid toaster.
I must speculate that certain, uh, injuries stemming from these heterosexual-turned-toastersexual misogynists attempting sexual congress with such a kitchen appliance...would not be a bad thing.
At the very least their future reproductive output would be limited to toast and maybe poptarts. Sounds to me like society would benefit from this arrangement.
And more people would get Vitamin C, Protein, and Zinc with their breakfast.
It's win-win-win.
Wow. Just, wow. I honestly don't know where to start.
What a moron.
Even if what he says is true - and I wish it is - that woman are very, very lazy with no drive and really just want to lounge around and do nothing, it's not necessarily a bad thing, as opposed to men who are very, very materialistic and do nothing but compete about who's got the best car and nicest house, with no time to think and gain some perspective into one's doings.
Now, start bashing me for what I just wrote.
huh?
I think we have better things to do here. Sorry, bud.
I actually don't know what you're talking about, since both of your points are total sexist overgeneralizations. I myself, at least, would like to think most men are not self-absorbed assholes simply because they have dicks.
What do you mean both of MY points? Isn't the first one HIS - the man mentioned in the article - point, HIS sexist overgeneralization? I didn't say or imply was that neither one of these generalizations are necessarily true, and I didn't say or imply that most men "are very, very materialistic and do nothing but compete about who's got the best car and nicest house", even if that sort of behaviour would be more common to men than to women.
Oh, ha ha! You got us! Feminists are foolish! Good work!
...sigh.
Now what's that supposed to mean, huh?
I thought we were too busy with our natural love for cleaning?
Well, so...I should have KNOWN BETTER than to attempt at confronting his bullsh*t ideologies. Now the butthole has come to MY blog and is spreading his hate. Why do I bother?
Anyway, I found out more info on him. He is angry because his wife left him for another man and took his son. They went to court and is now getting alimony and child support. He claims she is running around with a lot of men and is using her child.
So, this is why he is so angry.
He started to attack me and my husband and our marriage. He has a total of 14 blogs with this same hate filled ranting.
I don't understand why I confronted and challenged him. I knew it was stupid....but the idiocy and the nerve of this little pathetic weasle was just too much.
My curiousity and anger got the best of me. Learned my lesson!
Indeed. What did I tell you. Yet another controlling douchebag who can't over the fact that he doesn't possess or own the life of a woman.
If I was his wife, I'd have about 15 restraining orders on this weirdo. And have moved across the country. This loon represents the kind of hateful misogyny that leads to male-perpetrated domestic violence.
Jeeeeeeez, I went to the Mens-Rights.net site...
They advocate "killing cunts..no matter the age"
and this : "My bird bit me the other day, drawing spirts of blood.
I back-handed her across the room, knocking her senseless........
She's been very well behaved ever since.
Lesson Learned: Don't bite and you won't get smacked across the room. "
WTF?!?
Sounds like a lotta little tiny pee-pees hanging out at that site.
I used to get really angry about this kind of stuff, but I just basically feel sorry for this type now. Their fears and insecurities are so painfully obvious that it's kind of like watching a trainwreck, and I have to look away.
There were a few men's groups at my college that were totally cool. There was a Men of Color group that co-sponsored a lot of stuff with the sexual violence prevention group that I was in, and there was a regular discussion group for men to talk about masculinity. There is also now a group of men who focus on talking to other men about violence against women that has sprung up out of that. It was all very positive and the relationship between those groups and the feminist groups was very supportive.
Color me surprised when I first found Mens-Rights.net. Before I clicked on the link I was actually excited. I was thinking, "Holy crap, is this a national movement? That's wonderful! Deconstructing masculinity on a national level!"
oohh ha ha ha. No. :-(
It makes me sad now to realize that there are Men's Rights Activists but they're not the allies I would have hoped they would be. I always get sad when I see anything about MRAs because it seems like such a waste.
allegra, yeah... he started making denigrating comments towards me and my family. The comments have been deleted and will be from now on.
He is an absolute freak...
This is why you don't engage. It's a waste of your time, and will probably just make you angry. he's useless.
Oh yeah, trust me..lesson learned, zp27....again- it was admittedly my fault for feeding the animals. :/
Look- he has a video too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVHGDvR8UA
Look- he has video too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVHGDvR8UA
this is completely bogus, did this guy recently get dumped by a sucsessful woman or something ??what an ignornant asshole.
ahhhgg i just read the comments on this guys blog and his video. i am so angry i could throw my computer. wtf is this guys problem ??
That blog, and the rest of them appear to have been deleted, I think. I'm actually a little disappointed because I'd been arguing with him for a bit and he was running out of any semblance of logic, so I rick roll'd him, and now I'll never find out how much it pissed him off. It was a bad rick roll, too; the kind that moves around the screen so that you can't close it, and when you hit esc or alt + F4 you're forced to read the lyrics of the song, line by line...
Oh well. I can only hope it annoyed the hell out of him. (:
ehehehe! That blog got removed!