Why is it so intriguing and ok to condone the objectification of women in these more "urban" magazines? Although the magazine had women of other races, the predominately black magazine (along with others) believes it's ok to host these women because it provides an alternative beauty standard as opposed to the white, blonde, and blue eyed standard. It's not ok though. Latinas and Black women have constantly been viewed as nothing more but sexy, curvy, and an alternative to other men's magazines (as if all white women look the same, this is another problem). I appreciate all kinds of beauty, but just because this magazine targets another demographic does not make it ok or acceptable just because some view it as an alternative.
Vida Guerra, Melyssa Ford, Buffie the Body, Gloria Velez, K.D. Aubert are beautiful women and perfect examples of this constant exploitation, but there is something awfully wrong with featuring these ladies just because they have more curves. It would be different if they could model, without always having to be in thongs, bikinis, and lingerie.
What are your thoughts? Is this another form of objectification or does it provide us (both men and women) with another form of beauty standards?


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Oh, and the commentary about the copy editing drives the point home. Class and cultural tourism by "enlightened" middle class white girls. Typical.
What are your thoughts? Is this another form of objectification or does it provide us (both men and women) with another form of beauty standards?
It's a bit of both.
The current beauty standard is rather exclusionary. There are many theories as to what influences these ideals but it's getting harder to argue that preferences are not in part shaped by the media.
Currently our society essentially segregates women of color who don't conform to the European ideal. This works to maintain the status quo which then creates more of a niche market for magazines such as the above examples.
I totally agree that there is an element of sort of a point-and-gasp circus show mentality that all too often shows up regarding non-European features in the mainstream.
Whether it's strangers wanting to touch your hair or people surprised that darker skin ages slower or this odd fascination with booties. In 2009, it strikes me as a bit pathetic. It would be like me unaware of what freckles are or that fair skin gets sun burned: Imagine if I said, "hey wow, you turned bright red, can I touch that?"
While I don't care for these mags, objectification isn't the only problem wrong with how media portrays women; and objectification is so subjective anyway. It's much easier to rail against the absurdly unrealistic standards, lack of inclusion, funky power dynamic (nude women, clothed men), etc. While I think these magazines fail in many areas they do give room for something more inclusive. I guess all cultural beauty standards (youth and fertility do not correlate with skin color, hair texture, hair color, etc) are unrealistic but I do think these magazines are not quite as health damaging as the "rail thin" ideal.
Spike the cat, I have to agree. One question that I have is: Where do regular women fit in this standard? I'm not a model, I don't have big boobs and a huge but, I'm not skinny at all. Even if I had a lot of these things or one thing, many other women have these assets. Either side of the standard really isn't healthy for anyone...black, white, Hispanic, Asian. So why is it acceptable to have 2, instead of featuring models who possess the standards of some kind of gray area? Most of us are regular women who won't be on the cover or article of a magazine, but that doesn't mean we're ugly or less desirable...
Not only do "minority" women have 1 standard of beauty to look at constantly (The European), now we have some sort of Curvacious one to uphold. It's really not fair.
I agree with Bianca that it gives another unrealistic standard to live up to for WOC. While it's nice on one end that there are women of color being seen as beautiful, it stops there. If you go to that magazines site....it just seems very exploitive to me. I feel like they're just being reduced to their bodies again and that's all.
But is it objectification? Objectification is when someone is sexualized without regard for their feelings or desires, without regard for who they are as a person and what they want.
At first, I thought that this was definitely objectification, and the idea that just because the models were not-white and not-skinny made it not-objectification was fairly insulting.
But then I read the Jezebel article and now I'm a little doubtful. The models aren't just being looked at - they're being interviewed and interacted with on an intellectual level. Maybe they're not discussing global politics or whatever else is an "intellectual" topic, but they're being engaged, which would be an element of not-objectification.
It's objectifying to a degree, definitely, but I would argue much less so than high-end fashion magazines featuring skinny models.
Speaking as somebody in the "target audience" of magazines like Straight Stuntin, I'd like to make a couple of points.
Magazines like Straight Stuntin, Black Men, King ect are soft core porno magazines for African American men.
Like many White porno magazines, they go through the motions of running articles but I'm sure the editors know very well that nobody buys those magazines for the articles!
That's one of the reasons those articles are poorly written and copy edited - to their core audience, those articles are irrelevant!